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FrostFell
04-30-2010, 00:27
I'm interested in getting a bird later this year or sometime soon, as soon as I have the funds to blow on it. Google has actually not come up with any really good results for me, so..... does anyone here have birds? What species are good for beginners? Would like something medium in size, moderate to quiet loudness, very friendly, very outgoing, the kind of bird I can have out and hang out with me on my shoulder most of the day, and take to the store and have fun with. Also, where around here is a good place to get a nice hand raised healthy baby? All I can find is pet stores
In my (very limited) experience, green cheeks are great birds. Normally quiet and friendly, they are a little less outgoing that other species but the lower volume level is great. Sun conures are VERY outgoing and fun but a little louder. Personally, those two are my favorites.
I'd agree that Greencheeks are great for beginners. Most other Conures are quite LOUD (especially Sun Conures, despite how beautiful they are.) The best bird place around here (Seattle & vicinity) is Denise's Parrot Place on Mercer Island. All of her birds are healthy & guaranteed. If I was going to buy a bird, this is the only place I'd go to.
Cockatiels are a great beginner bird & quite personable, however are not a good choice for "around town on your shoulder" because even when their wings are clipped, they are super strong flyers & a gust of wind can get them airborne & lost...
And a note of caution around here in the Pacific NW: I had a friend whose African Grey was nearly taken away by a hawk who swooped down out of nowhere, so pet birds need a safety enclosure and/or supervision while outdoors.
If you are looking for a little bit bigger bird (but still medium & quieter), a good species to try is the Pionus family....they are bigger, but rather quiet & quite sweet..... although always remember that birds will come with their own personalities (like people!)
Good luck!
I have taken care of tons of different Macaws. If your are interested in a large bird and have a ton o money to blow... Hyacinth's are the sweetest... extremely AWESOME dispositions and quite silent. They are also EXTREMELY expensive and would require that you participate in breeding projects. WELL worth it IMO. If I ever purchase a Macaw of my own, this would be the only choice.
I have also worked with (had living with me--foster--for extended periods--1+ years each):
Blue & Golds - nice birdies, very loud when they expect attention
Military macaws - Very quite birds (mostly), but they tend to bite and love destroying clothes/furniture
Cockatoos - VERY loud birds... the salmons on the other hand tend to be quiter and a little better behaved
Amazons - Awesome if you want a bird that talks a lot, very smart but dispo is iffy
African Greys - I personally like they, but they tend to be bitey. They are supposed to be great talkers, I have yet to meet one that comes close to an Amazon.
These are the ones that stick out the most for me. They are others that I have worked with, just slipping my mind at the moment. Do keep in mind, most Macaws are GENERATIONAL pets. They WILL outlive you, so plan accordingly.
Hope this is helpful.
I have kept birds for 30 years, until a few years ago. I'm assuming you're looking for a parrot, which can range from the familiar "parakeet," (budgerigar) to the Macaw family. Most conures are relatively noisy, as are Amazons and Macaws. Pionus are quieter, but less outgoing. Cockateils are very sweet, relatively quiet, and friendly, but not as skilled at talking.
Almost any hand-fed baby you get will be a great bird, so you need to choose according to species, because like dog breeds, parrots run close to type, especially if you start with a baby. I'll pm you some websites later today when I have a little more time. One thing- if anyone in your home has respiratory issues, think very carefully before you get a bird. All birds shed a protein that can affect some people seriously. Cockateils, African Greys and Cockatoos have a natural powder in their feathers that is more irritating than other birds, but if you're one of the unfortunate ones who is sensitive to bird protein, you'll have a problem.
I have had a couple of birds, my first being a Patagonian Conure. He was a great beginner bird, he could talk up a storm, was very friendly and loved to cuddle. Next was a double yellowhead, great talker, very much a character. Next was a blue and gold Macaw and her best friend, a green wing macaw. They were great and I truly loved them, but they would not stop screaming when they saw our baby, so after 6 months, we had to re home them. I have a friend who has a couple of hyacinth macaws, he doesn't breed them, but they are fairly expensive, about $5000 to 6000 per bird is what he paid. Birds are very awesome animals, but they require ALOT of attention and stimulation due to their intelligence. Think of having a 3 year old that lasts for 50+ years. I hope to get another green wing some day, but it will be once my kids are a bit older.
...... Do keep in mind, most Macaws are GENERATIONAL pets. They WILL outlive you, so plan accordingly.......
Keep in mind also that this is true of all parrots. I got a Half-moon conure (also known as Petz conure, Aratinga canicularis canicularis) in 1977. She died in 2006. I was lucky that I was in a position to keep her for her entire life, almost 3 decades. She probably would have lived longer had the information about nutrition and health that is available today been known when I first got her. Cockatoos and Macaws routinely live into their 80s, and African Greys and Amazons into their 60s. Cockatiels and Conures live into their 30s and up, and even little budgies can live to be 20.
By the way, if you decide on a Macaw, get one of the mini-macaws, like a yellow-collar. The big ones are not recommended as a first-time bird.
...... a blue and gold Macaw and her best friend, a green wing macaw. They were great and I truly loved them, but they would not stop screaming when they saw our baby, so after 6 months, we had to re home them......
OK, now THAT is my definition of stress! A new baby and 2 Macaws that won't stop screaming. Did you or your wife get any sleep at all during those 6 months?
FrostFell
04-30-2010, 15:26
WOOOOOOOW thanks for all the info everyone! I will check out the place on Mercer Island. I am looking for something relatively cheap, so as neat as the bigger guys like Militaries are, they are out of my pricerange I think. I like the conures, and I have a friend with a yellow naped amazon and he is a cool character, very sweet in spite of a rough life so far. The cockatoos are pretty too, and I wouldn't mind one of those, but everything Iv read says they are LOUD. Don't know what a Pionus is? And cockatiels are too noisy in my experience. My old roommate had some that she bred, color morphs, and they screamed nearly all the time
Cockatoos are not just loud, they are EAR-SPLITTING. So are Macaws. Most parrots are loud at times, so if you think Cockatiels are noisy, you'd better do a lot of hands-on research before you decide what you want. They are actually not as loud as most of the others- although in your roommate's case, the fact that there were several may have made it seem a lot worse.
Birds scream for a reason, sometimes out of jealousy and the need for attention, (see bmb527 post above) sometimes out of frustration or fear, but usually just because it's a great day to do a little screaming. You can check out Pionus species, they have the rep. of being quieter, (I don't know, I've never had one) but it's all relative. Parrots are all extremely social animals that communicate with sound. You can train them to be appropriate (within limits) but you can't train them to be quiet.
FrostFell
04-30-2010, 16:09
Oh definitely, I understand hollerin for attention or because they see food coming or for any actual REASON. I don't mind barking in my dogs for a reason either. What I don't want is the birdbrain equivilant of a dog that sits in the middle of a room and barks in a monotone for hours, for no other reason than its own neurosis. Or a bird that when it DOES vocalize, wakes neighbors 2 blocks away lol. I live in the city, I can't have that. I used to have a peacock and he would scream to alert us to something suspicious, but he always stopped after a few seconds, he didn't carry on. And I don't think any parrot species could be as earsplitting as a peafowl when he wants to make a point lol
OK, now THAT is my definition of stress! A new baby and 2 Macaws that won't stop screaming. Did you or your wife get any sleep at all during those 6 months?
The birds slept at night, and after a month or so our daughter started sleeping through the night, for the most part. Sunrise meant EVERYBODY got up as the birds went through a "bootup" every morning and recited every word, sound, song phrase that they knew. It was hilarious if you were already up, but if you were trying to sleep, it SUCKED!!! I still miss them greatly. They now reside at a rest home in Denver. They get plenty of attention from all the residents and have a very large aviary to explore. It has been 5 years since they left and I still get updates on them from their caretaker. They are some spoiled birds!
One more thing about Cockatoos, they are neurotic. They require a HUGE ammount of attention or many turn to feather picking and in some cases self mutilation. They are loving beautiful birds, but require a lot of time.
OK, I just remembered the genus I was thinking you should check out- Poicephalus. There are several species in the trade. Very nice birds.
....... It has been 5 years since they left and I still get updates on them from their caretaker.....
That's so great.
One more thing about Cockatoos, they are neurotic. They require a HUGE ammount of attention or many turn to feather picking and in some cases self mutilation. They are loving beautiful birds, but require a lot of time.
Ditto African Greys.
Cockatoos are not just loud, they are EAR-SPLITTING.
And this is an understatement!!
Hyacinth, Hyacinth, Hyacinth, Hyacinth, Hyacinth, Hyacinth, Hyacinth!!! Save your money and wait for it!!! I SWEAR, you will not be disappointed! Best bird EVER! Listen to no one else... unless they say "Get a Hyacinth"!!!
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Cast off the shoe, follow the gourd!!!!!
Yes of course, Hyacinths are gorgeous. They are not a "first" bird for anyone. And they certainly are in the upper echelon when it comes to cost.
I have a cockatiel who has a vocab of over 100 words & phrases, although some of these he'll only say in front of his roommate, my middle son (human.) I recently added a GreenCheek Conure, and the cockatiel is about 399% LOUDER than the GreenCheek. The GreenCheek talks up a storm, but in a low mumbly voice that so far is unintelligible, although he has spoken to my son. Our cockatiel just turned 12 years old (we got him at 8 weeks) but his speaking ability is exceptional...and it is not in the clearest voice (kinda like toddler-speak) so not everyone gets what he's saying...
My personal opinion on cockatoos is that they are akin to having a 2 year old human (in the "Terrible Twos") for 70 straight years.... They are nearly a fulltime job.
Good call on the Poicephalus, C.... I just mentioned Pionus due to the request for quiet, and from everything I've ever read/heard/seen, Pionus are generally quieter than Poicephalus...
FrostFell
04-30-2010, 22:35
can someone post pics and info on pionus and poicsomethingorother?
Just from having worked with them for a couple months, I really like the conures. Am I heading in the wrong direction with a greencheek or sun? What about the amazons? Are any of them suitable for a beginner? I like their size
Sun conures are really fun, really cute, REALLY NOISY.
FrostFell
04-30-2010, 23:24
LOLk. Sun conures are out then. What about green cheeks? Or any of the amazons? Yellow nape amazon is what my friend has and he seems fun, but theyre so expensive. I dont really want to spend 1k on a birdbrain
......What about green cheeks? Or any of the amazons?.....
I've never had a greencheek, but their rep is that they are quiet (for a conure.) Amazons are boisterous and exuberant, so they can be noisy.
can someone post pics and info on pionus and poicsomethingorother?
Yes, someone certainly could, and that someone is you!! You have to do some of your own research- you've made a good start by asking here, since a bunch of us have had birds. But the more research you do personally, the happier you'll be with your eventual choice.
.....What about the amazons? Are any of them suitable for a beginner? I like their size
Just about any hand-fed baby bird is fine for a beginner, because they are so adorable for a year or so, and they WORSHIP you. It's when they hit puberty and those hormones kick in that a beginner runs into trouble. Frankly, I think you'd be happier with a Pionus or Poicephalus, because their smaller size makes them less intimidating. They look somewhat like small Amazons.
Sun conures are really fun, really cute, REALLY NOISY.
They are still one of my favorites. They can be noisy, but with this particular bird the noise never bothered me.
They are still one of my favorites. They can be noisy, but with this particular bird the noise never bothered me.
I was able to overlook bird noise completely- but I was lucky, because I wasn't living in an apartment. Birds are frequently re-homed because first-timers don't research enough before they buy, and too late discover that they are in trouble with their landlord or their neighbors. Frost-fell is being very smart to take a lot of time figuring this out.
I was able to overlook bird noise completely- but I was lucky, because I wasn't living in an apartment. Birds are frequently re-homed because first-timers don't research enough before they buy, and too late discover that they are in trouble with their landlord or their neighbors. Frost-fell is being very smart to take a lot of time figuring this out.
Excellent point. Never would have considered that. I would think a bird isn't the best idea anyways until you are in your own place--they can be (and usually are) mostly destructive. Love to shred things... furniture, walls, clothing, etc.
dalvers63
05-01-2010, 17:52
One more thing about Cockatoos, they are neurotic. They require a HUGE ammount of attention or many turn to feather picking and in some cases self mutilation. They are loving beautiful birds, but require a lot of time.
Part of the problem people have with 'too's is that they give them TOO much attention as babies. They're cute, they're cuddly and people spend every minute with them. The problem with this is, just like dogs, you end up with horrible separation anxiety when they're adults and you have to go to work or can't spend as much time with them. Having lived in a house with 5 of them (from Goffin to Mollucan) and seen every neurosis level they can have it wouldn't be a bird I'd select.
OK, I just remembered the genus I was thinking you should check out- Poicephalus. There are several species in the trade. Very nice birds.
Poicephalus are one of my favorite species of small parrots. Just do a Google search on them, you'll find LOTS of info. If you like the macaws but want to stay smaller, my favorite has always been the Severe Macaws. They are the largest of the smaller Macaws, very smart and not all that loud.
Parrots will always want to welcome the sun and then chase it away at night. With a houseful of 20 parrots of 6 or species, it was the same every day. The sun would start to set and they would all call and vocalize for about 20 minutes. I'ts just something you have to live with if you want a parrot. It's well worth it though if you have the time to devote to them.
.........they can be (and usually are) mostly destructive. Love to shred things... furniture, walls, clothing, etc.
That's true, but not hard to deal with. They simply have to be contained- the cages with the playpens on top are great for that. And if you're creative, you can find tons of stuff for them to tear up without spending too much on toys. Save paper towel and toilet paper rolls, and have your friends save them. Tear long strips of newspaper and weave it in and out of the bars till the bird can't see out and has to pull and shred it. give them empty cereal boxes. I used to buy cartloads of baby toys at the thrift store.
......If you like the macaws but want to stay smaller, my favorite has always been the Severe Macaws.......
Really? If I was going for a minimac I'd get a Yellowcollar. Darling, darling birds.
Just about any hand-fed baby bird is fine for a beginner, because they are so adorable for a year or so, and they WORSHIP you. It's when they hit puberty and those hormones kick in that a beginner runs into trouble. Frankly, I think you'd be happier with a Pionus or Poicephalus, because their smaller size makes them less intimidating. They look somewhat like small Amazons.
Ah... the joys of puberty. There is NOTHING like a full grown female military macaw who decides that you are it's mate and your ear is the appropriate rubby part. >.<
ah... The joys of puberty. There is nothing like a full grown female military macaw who decides that you are it's mate and your ear is the appropriate rubby part. >.<
eeeeeeeeuuuuuuuuwwwww!!!!!
FrostFell
05-11-2010, 15:43
Does anyone have experience with yellow naped Amazons and or blue front Amazons? Thanks
Does anyone have experience with yellow naped Amazons and or blue front Amazons? Thanks
I have extensive experience (20+ years) with both. What do you want to know?
FrostFell
05-12-2010, 12:50
I have extensive experience (20+ years) with both. What do you want to know?
Well lets start with the yellow naped. How about everything, and then we will move on to everything :)
I've had an African Grey, a Black Lorrie and a Cockatiel. I fostered a Moulacaan Cockatoo. My best friend had a Pionus, Eclectus & two Goffin Cockatoos. Every morning around sunrise, the Cockatoos would scream - it made the windows rattle in house. I'm not kidding. They were just greeting the day. I loved my African Grey, but he required a HUGE amount of attention and was terrified of anyone else. If anyone else even came into the house, he would thrash around in this cage until they left. Stay away from Lorries or any nectar eating birds unless you want to clean bird poop off of your walls constantly. Mine had the BEST personality, but was the highest maintenance pet I've ever owned as far as keeping up with husbandry. My Cockatiel was a simple bird to keep, talked a little and was very funny. But she chattered & whistled non stop. (bird chatter - not talking).
My best friend's favorite bird was her Pionus. He was sweet natured and quieter than the other birds, but I don't think he talked at all. Her Eclectus was gorgeous, but one day, at age 5, he decided he liked her husband better than her and flew into a rage whenever she came around him. It broke her heart.
I always thought that if I got another bird, it would be a Parrotlette (Grey cheeked Parakeet), but now I'm reading that they are hard to get hold of because they are hard to breed in captivitiy. I knew someone who had them many years ago and they seemed to be the perfect little bird.
Good luck!
Well lets start with the yellow naped. How about everything, and then we will move on to everything :)
All Amazons, generally speaking, are boisterous, pushy, loving, jealous, and noisy. In a good situation, the noise is talking and singing as opposed to screaming. If you have only one you will have more talking and less screaming. They are less neurotic than African Greys or Cockatoos, meaning that if you leave them alone for a few hours they'll be OK as long as they have space to play and a LOT of toys. However, they are pair-bonding animals who in nature mate for life. You are the mate if you have 1 bird. That means that it is very dependent on you for emotional support, and you can't expect it to thrive without a lot of attention, so if you have to go to work during the day, you need to spend a lot of time with it when you get home. Still, it's a better choice than an African Grey or Cockatoo, who basically fall apart if left alone all day. Also keep in mind that if your sexually mature bird loves you, and is in breeding condition, it becomes actually dangerous to your significant other, and to you. It's no joke- getting bitten in the face or eye by an angry Amazon can be actually disfiguring. You are at risk if it's sitting on your shoulder when your boyfriend/girlfriend starts showing you attention.
Bluefronts are good talkers, but Yellow-napes are reputed to be even better, equaling Greys in talking ability. In my opinion, Greys have better diction and pronunciation. Amazons always sound somewhat like a squeaky little girl.
Comparing the two, Bluefronts are maybe a little bit less likely to hurt you than Yellownapes. They are also smaller.
All parrots are smart so they all need mental stimulation. Never leave them out of the cage unsupervised- they can easily get into trouble and hurt themselves.
The biggest problem for you as a novice is that the first year or so with a baby parrot is such a lovefest, that you can't believe that your bird could ever be anything but cuddly and affectionate. Most people laugh and think it's funny when their bird gets jealous of their spouse or dog or mother. However, sexual maturity brings a lot of behavior problems that you have to be ready for. The biggest reasons that parrots end up homeless are noise and biting. These are behavioral issues that you can deal with if you are prepared for them, but most people don't go to the trouble to educate themselves before getting a bird.
The best thing you could do is read a few of the books that I mentioned earlier in this thread. There is simply too much information that you need to know to put it in a post here. Parrots are really smart, really complex, really fun, but they are nothing like keeping reptiles. Reptiles need good husbandry. Parrots need good relationships.
FrostFell
05-13-2010, 19:23
All Amazons, generally speaking, are boisterous, pushy, loving, jealous, and noisy. In a good situation, the noise is talking and singing as opposed to screaming. If you have only one you will have more talking and less screaming. They are less neurotic than African Greys or Cockatoos, meaning that if you leave them alone for a few hours they'll be OK as long as they have space to play and a LOT of toys. However, they are pair-bonding animals who in nature mate for life. You are the mate if you have 1 bird. That means that it is very dependent on you for emotional support, and you can't expect it to thrive without a lot of attention, so if you have to go to work during the day, you need to spend a lot of time with it when you get home. Still, it's a better choice than an African Grey or Cockatoo, who basically fall apart if left alone all day. Also keep in mind that if your sexually mature bird loves you, and is in breeding condition, it becomes actually dangerous to your significant other, and to you. It's no joke- getting bitten in the face or eye by an angry Amazon can be actually disfiguring. You are at risk if it's sitting on your shoulder when your boyfriend/girlfriend starts showing you attention.
Bluefronts are good talkers, but Yellow-napes are reputed to be even better, equaling Greys in talking ability. In my opinion, Greys have better diction and pronunciation. Amazons always sound somewhat like a squeaky little girl.
Comparing the two, Bluefronts are maybe a little bit less likely to hurt you than Yellownapes. They are also smaller.
All parrots are smart so they all need mental stimulation. Never leave them out of the cage unsupervised- they can easily get into trouble and hurt themselves.
The biggest problem for you as a novice is that the first year or so with a baby parrot is such a lovefest, that you can't believe that your bird could ever be anything but cuddly and affectionate. Most people laugh and think it's funny when their bird gets jealous of their spouse or dog or mother. However, sexual maturity brings a lot of behavior problems that you have to be ready for. The biggest reasons that parrots end up homeless are noise and biting. These are behavioral issues that you can deal with if you are prepared for them, but most people don't go to the trouble to educate themselves before getting a bird.
The best thing you could do is read a few of the books that I mentioned earlier in this thread. There is simply too much information that you need to know to put it in a post here. Parrots are really smart, really complex, really fun, but they are nothing like keeping reptiles. Reptiles need good husbandry. Parrots need good relationships.
Great post!!
Being that after they hit about a year things get rocky for a while, I wonder about the option of getting a very young bird thats had a good upbringing, but that is just past this-- say 5 years old? If "puberty" brings issue a first time bird owner might not be able handle properly, would it be good to skip this? I know I will try to do everything right, but I also know that birds are sensitive and dont forget anything easily, I dont want to do something wrong and mess up a perfectly nice bird with my inexperience
The more I am around them the more I really dig the yellow nape amazons. I really cant get into being enthusiastic about anything else-- so I want to make sure I get it right
....Being that after they hit about a year things get rocky for a while, I wonder about the option of getting a very young bird thats had a good upbringing, but that is just past this-- say 5 years old? If "puberty" brings issue a first time bird owner might not be able handle properly, would it be good to skip this?
Yes, if you find a perfect bird..... but most second-hand birds have some behavior problems, so you might as well have a baby. (except adults are WAY cheaper.) Also, birds can't be "neutered," so you frequently find that breeding season every year brings an increase in aggression and jealousy for a few months. You can avoid some of the aggression by getting a female, but the most important thing is to learn about bird psychology. Did you get any of the books I recommended? They have good info.
I know I will try to do everything right, but I also know that birds are sensitive and dont forget anything easily, I dont want to do something wrong and mess up a perfectly nice bird with my inexperience
I've never believed the theory that birds can't change or that they can be wrecked by a little mistake. I clipped all my birds' wings and toenails regularly, and occasionally hurt them and drew blood, but none of them ever held a grudge.
The more I am around them the more I really dig the yellow nape amazons. I really cant get into being enthusiastic about anything else-- so I want to make sure I get it right
They are absolutely one of the best birds you could have, but are very pushy. If you get a second-hand adult, try to get a female- they are less aggressive.
Don't let an Amazon ride on your shoulder- if they suddenly get spooked or enraged they could lay open your cheek or take out your eye. Also, many behavior issues can be resolved by keeping the bird at or slightly below your eye level, not on a playpen at the top of a 7-foot cage.
Also- I know you want to take the bird with you, but I strongly advise against it. Going out in public to the store or similar places is fun for the bird owner but frightening for the bird, and much more likely to result in a nervous and insecure bird that bites easily.
FrostFell
05-15-2010, 12:56
Are there any birds that enjoy going new places and meeting new people?
Are there any birds that enjoy going new places and meeting new people?
You know, you can talk to other bird owners, and veterinarians, and read a lot, and maybe you'll get a different answer- but in my opinion, no. I think the best you'll be able to do, if you're lucky, is train your bird to tolerate the presence of strangers. I've never seen a psittacine that actually "enjoyed" being out in public, or being around unfamiliar people. Even when people come into your home, a place where the bird is comfortable, he/she will be standoffish and reserved towards the strangers, and if forced to be introduced will sometimes bite. You can, and should, desensitize them to strangers and new situations, so they will be more comfortable, but I don't think they'll ever look forward to it.
Say you want to take your parrot to the store, or to a friends house. You're excited to show off your new pet. But you really have to think like the bird- everything in the world that is bigger than you wants to eat you. The only place you are safe is in your treetrunk nest hole, surrounded by close walls, or while flying high in the air in a large flock. You have a strong bonding drive, a need to mate for life with one individual. You adore your mate, and your survival may depend on your mate, so you try to protect them- but you can't in a crowd of strangers, and besides you really don't understand why they are paying attention to these other creatures when you are so much more important. On top of that, your stress level is rising higher every second as you realize that you are in a completely strange and unfamiliar place. In nature, this could mean a death sentence. You are very, very scared. That's what the bird is experiencing. Taking them out of the house now and then, and having friends come over to visit while the bird is in the room, is a good way to desensitize them, but I think the best you can hope for is a grudging tolerance.
I'd like to add that there are many birds, especially Macaws and Cockatoos, that seem happy in public doing tricks, but they are working for actual food rewards. They've been trained to accept those conditions, and they are probably not unhappy, but it's a different situation, because they are in a strictly controlled routine, which makes them feel secure.
FrostFell
05-15-2010, 22:15
Yeah that makes sense. Well bummer. I wanted a bird I can take out with me on walks with my dog, that will ham it up just as hard as my little pit bulls lol
Looks like birdbrain gets to stay at home. Thanks for all the advice, you have been awesome
Make sure to read those books I told you about. Having a parrot is enriching beyond all your expectations, and I'm not trying to discourage you from having one. It's just that they are extremely complex animals and you really need to understand them. I hope to keep parrots again someday. I miss them all the time.
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